Evil Alters

When Christians have Anti-Christian Parts

If someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder has alters (‘personalities’) who are demonized, sadistic, occultic, or witches

What happens when a Christian alter and an anti-Christian alter share the same body and brain? (‘Alter’ is a name for a ‘personality’ or part of a person who has Dissociative Identity Disorder or – as it was once called – Multiple Personality Disorder.)

You cannot cast out (exorcize) or remove an alter, any more than you could cast out or remove half of your brain. And alters can never by changed by trying to suppress them or forget that they exist. The only workable option is to lead one’s non-Christian parts to Christ. This can only happen through dialoguing with them. If, however, you hate or despise them, do you really think they would listen to you or find anything attractive about Christ? Moreover, a basic reason for the formation of alters is that they had been starved of love. They are desperate for love and are keen to please someone who offers them genuine love.

For insight into this, I would like to share with you a message written by a friend of mine I’ll call Jan. Here’s how it came about:

A person I’ll call Jan heard of a devout Christian with Dissociative Identity Disorder who was mortified to discover that she had what she felt compelled to conclude was an alter or ‘personality’ who not only acted without Rachel’s knowledge but literally practiced witchcraft and used demonic powers on people. Upon hearing this Jan wrote the following to her.

It is so helpful and beautifully passionate that I obtained Jan’s permission to share it with you.

For fear of swamping you with words, I will avoid a long introduction. I am concerned, however, that some readers might feel that what Jan says is spiritually over the top or even unbiblical. As a compromise, I have provided a brief biblical explanation at the end of the webpage, with links to still more. If, however, theological doubts about what Jan is saying begin to nag you, please immediately slide down to the end and read it before continuing with her message. Some readers will find the biblical explanation the most valuable part.

Your servant,
Grantley Morris
Founder of Net-Burst.Net

Coming to know those inside us is a long process. I truly believe Jesus allows it to be this long so that we can build a strong foundation and deep stability in him. It is then that we are able to handle what ends up being a profound and heart-wrenching insight about our lives. I believe there are probably many broken dear Christian souls who have been victims as we have been, but have never had the inner strength to come to know the truth of what is inside them. So, even right now, I pray Jesus strengthen both you and me in our ‘inner person’ to come to know the truth that sets us free – the truth about ourselves, our history, our wounds, but even more so, the truth of your healing, restoration and grace that sets us free to the core.

One of the things that has been a great comfort to me is that, although I was utterly shocked to know that there were witches inside of me, Jesus was neither shocked nor rocked! He has seen and known the struggle from the beginning, understands how this has happened, and has IMMENSE COMPASSION for all those inside.

I will share what I understand about what happened to me, in the hope that, even if it’s not exactly the same with you, somehow, by God’s grace and goodness, there will be something helpful or useful.

Having been born into a trans-generational family of witches and satanists, I was, in the womb, and in all my tiny years and beyond, purposefully tortured and split. Even at a very young age, I was split into two ‘camps’: the ‘front’ aspects, who were encouraged to be Christians, and the ‘back’ aspects, who were taught how much God ‘hated’ women, etc. The latter were the ones who would become trained in witchcraft. Scripture was constantly twisted to show the ‘little girls’ (and boys) inside of me how much God despised girls and women. I was taught to understand that all women are seen as Jezebels in God’s eyes, using stories like Eve being deceived by the serpent, Lot’s wife turning into a pillar of salt, Delilah, Jezebel and every other part of the Bible that could be distorted to put women down. I even wanted to be a minister when I was a teenager but was told I couldn’t because I was a woman. God did not want me. He only wanted men.

Deep down, I came to hate that I was a woman and I came to understand that God must have hated me and wanted to curse my life by making me a woman. (This was all generated under the surface. The ‘front’ part of me was aware of some of this, but not how powerfully rooted these lies were planted. There were deep places in me that felt that God saw me as dirty, hideous and profane because I was a woman, and that he must have truly hated me to have made me a woman.

My split-off parts were also raped, tortured, and tricked by abusers who actually pretended to be Jesus and God the Father. These parts of me came to hate God for making me ME. Once these parts were created, many were taught to stay in hiding from God because they were shown ‘from Scripture’ that if they came out where God could see them, he would smite them, or cause them to burn forever. So they believed they needed to keep the secret and stay hidden.

I was mortified and horrified when, recently, I finally came to terms with understanding that based on all the evidence I now currently had, that there were indeed witches in me. And, because of this and because of much we are taught in the church that really is NOT the true Gospel, I believed that Jesus and God the Father were horrified about me, too, and that Jesus and Father would reject those parts in me and wanted to ‘get rid’ of them as much as I did.

But Jesus showed me something that turned my world upside down, and also challenged so many of my beliefs, even as a Christian.

First of all, as I said, Jesus showed me that he was neither surprised, nor unsettled by any of this. He had always known, had always accepted me, and always loved me, regardless.

But then it was like he took me to the Father’s throne. I thought he was going to maybe show me the judgment or the consequences he had in store for all those who partake of the occult, whether in satanism or witchcraft. Instead, this is what the Father said to me, as he looked down on all the witches and satanists:

“Do you know what I see when I look at them? I see little girls and little boys with shattered hearts who are simply trying to somehow get their power back. And they have come to believe this is the only way. What they don’t understand or know is that I freely offer them more power than they could ever conjure or manipulate.” He looked over all the witches and satanists with such compassion and kindness and I could see that his greatest desire was for them to come to know how much he loves and accepts them and wants to heal their hearts and restore their God-given power that had been STOLEN from them. It was not given up of their free will; it was beaten from them, tortured from them, tricked and deceived from them and betrayed from them.

Sadly, both witchcraft and, in some ways, the church had taught me that God rejected me, rejected women, rejected witches and Satanists, and it is those LIES that have held those parts separate from me and from God’s love and grace.

I had believed that God rejects witches and that, since witches were part of me (albeit not by my choice) they were parts of me that I then couldn’t accept. The problem, then, wasn’t so much that there were witches in me, but that ‘I’ (the part of me usually out front), believed the lie that they were unacceptable and worthy of rejection because ‘I’ believed the lie that God rejected and hated them and wanted them destroyed or removed or gotten rid of.

The truth I am coming to know is this: God the Father and Jesus love witches and satanists dearly. When Jesus died on the cross with open arms, he died for everyone – those who love him, those who hate him, those who are deceived.

This is an important point – maybe the most important point I want to make – witchcraft is built on a foundation of rejection, hatred of women, hatred of men, hatred of God but, even sadder, it is founded on the belief that WE are hated and rejected by God. The great antidote to rejection is acceptance, and the antidote to hatred is love. If you come at the foundation of witchcraft with more rejection and hatred, you only add fuel to the fire. And if you believe God rejects them, it gives them a place to stand.

I am starting to see that it is our responsibility, as the Christian front part, to love as Jesus does; to accept the witches in us, with love and kindness and compassion, and without judgment, since they have endured horrible things that have caused them to believe as they do.

I remember a pastor once telling me, “Acceptance is the very BEGINNINGS of love.” I have come to understand this more and more. We cannot genuinely love someone if we do not completely accept WHO they are and WHERE they are in their lives. I believe this means loving without an agenda that the other person changes; without coercion by covert or overt means. Sadly, much of Christian evangelism is based on pretending to love people with the agenda of changing them into people that these Christians can actually love. That’s fake. Nobody likes it and, in a way, it is manipulation which is regarded by the Lord as witchcraft.

We love because, regardless of what our witches believe, we were ALL created in the image of God and when he saw what he made he declared it GOOD. Witches can do evil things (but so can Christians) but though they may believe they ARE evil, they can only DO evil.

Sadly, I’m sure the rejection you experienced in the church probably filtered down to those inside you and further reinforced the lie that they are rejected by God and the church. Nothing could be further from the truth: Jesus loves, accepts, and honors ALL those inside you and does not reject any.

I believe he even sees valuable and praiseworthy characteristics within your witch part. She probably has some knowledge she can help you with, when you are being truly received by those around you with grace and understanding.

I find it interesting that those inside who were, or maybe currently are, involved in witchcraft, react horribly to Christians who are still living or preaching out of the law, but when True Grace is present, their hearts melt inside. You see, they are ANTICIPATING being rejected by God and the church. They are expecting to be misunderstood, and perceived as wrong and attacked. To be in a Christian atmosphere that is still caught up in the law further provokes them, because this is the foundation on which they were created and built. They expect to be told, “This part of you is good: keep it. But this other part, the witch part, is BAD, so stow it away where neither you nor God can see or judge it.” That is not New Testament living.

But I thank my Lord that the truth is true for ALL of us “It is by GRACE we have been saved”. In Jesus, the witch or witches in you have ALREADY been loved, accepted for who they are, and are precious in his sight. They just haven’t, as of yet, come into the faith and understanding of knowing it, because they have been tricked, tortured and brutally betrayed and deceived into NOT believing it! That is why I say please don’t judge her/them. They lived things and endured things that you are not aware of (yet) and “there, but for the Grace of God, go I.”

More and more, I am seeing that the most powerful force in the world is love and it begins with acceptance. I believe if we can come to know how much Jesus loves and accepts them, and then embrace them with that love, and value them in our inner community, it will transform them. We don’t have to cajole them or chastise them or tell them they are wrong. We need to honor them, receive them and listen to them. Believe it or not, I think they have a profound wisdom that, when balanced with the Christian perspective, can be very insightful and valuable.

I hope this didn’t sound preachy or confusing in any way. I can come across as opinionated and maybe even bossy but I think that might be because for me to actually write something down, I need to have a strength of conviction about it. If this is the case, please forgive me. I know you are likely to have many insights that would be helpful to me as well, and that I would love to hear about, if you are able.

Bless you, my dear sister. May the Lord Jesus comfort you and strengthen you on this very difficult journey to love and accept ALL of who you are, even as he loves and accepts you. Not only do I believe that he has special help and provision for those like us, but precious rewards, too.

With love and much admiration for you,


P.S: If you are comfortable to read this to your inside witch, I have a message for her, too.

Dearest one who identifies as a witch:

I want to express to you my deep sorrow and regret for all the ways you have felt rejected by and ostracized from the church. I know that must be very painful, as no one likes to be rejected. We all want to be seen and valued for who we are.

I am someone who also has a witch living in me. I have felt the rejection of those in the church and not only has it hurt me, but made me angry, too.

Sadly, both witchcraft, AND sometimes churches, have mistakenly taught me that God rejected me (or more accurately my witch) and that he hated me and would hurt me.

I have come to find out, surprisingly, this is a HUGE LIE.

I am learning that Jesus really does genuinely accept witches for who they are. He loves them and he is highly interested in talking with them and getting to know them. I didn’t know this before! Maybe you didn’t either. I thought he was mad at my witch, but he’s not at all!!! He values her greatly, and values you, too.

Grantley has created this website to try to get this message out, and give those of us who are confused a chance to sort things out. I just want you to know that I accept you as you are and I welcome you to share your heart. You will be respected, and I would love to get to know you better.

With love,


P.P.S: Dear and treasured Friend,

It might sound a bit strange to you (or maybe not) but I also wanted to ask if there is a way you could maybe buy something for your inside witch (I feel sad addressing her this way, I wish I knew her name). I have in mind something beautiful and feminine – maybe a pretty flower, or something she might really like – and then tell her it is for her and help her see that she really is a very special part of you. I think you would find that, over time, this might encourage her to share her heart and her hurts with you, and she might even be transformed by your love.

I got my nails done pretty to acknowledge that my alter who is a witch is loved and honored, and that the feminine side of me is a gift from God and is accepted by me. It’s just a little token, but the more I can gain her trust, the stronger we will all be inside.

My prayer over my life and my mind is Jesus’ own prayer. I pray it for you too: May we, as many as we are, be ONE, even as Jesus and the Father (and the Holy Spirit) are one.

Sending my love to all those within you,


Is this Biblical?

God is the most misunderstood and underestimated person in the universe. The mindboggling extent of his compassion and tolerance is such an enormous subject that I have written extensively on it (See the Staggering Bible Truths link near the end of this webpage.)

“God so loved the world,” says John 3:16 – not just some likable people but all of humanity. The infinite compassion and love of the God of the Bible extends to the most despised people on this planet. When God loves, it is with all of his heart. The God who asks us to love him with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength is no hypocrite. Likewise, he is no hypocrite who commanded us to love our enemies.

The Lord did not wait until we repented and put our faith in him, but “while we were still sinners, Christ died for us,” (Romans 5:8). “ . . . when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly . . . when we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son,” (Romans 5:6,10).

To be godly is the act like God. Wrote the great apostle: “Be imitators of God,” (1 Corinthians 11:1) and “Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ,” (Ephesians 5:1). The One we are expected to model our lives on was continually blasted by the ‘righteous’ for befriending ‘sinners’ numerous examples. He touched and healed the unclean and compassionately set free the demonized. He defended prostitutes and adulterers and befriended tax collectors who, out of greed, became collaborators with the foreign occupying force and extorted taxes from their countrymen for the Romans.

Will you do as the Bible instructs and “Do not repay anyone evil for evil. . . . as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. . . . If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. . . . overcome evil with good” (Romans 12:17-21)? Or will you ‘fight’ evil with hate, self-righteousness and other forms of evil? That is not fighting evil, it surrendering to evil. It is letting evil win by becoming like what you imagine you hate.

Tragically, many of us have an appallingly inflated view of our own ‘righteousness’ relative to someone we despise as lowlife. The emphatic teaching of the Bible is that none of us is worthy of God’s grace. Each of us is utterly dependent upon the undeserved mercy of God. Not one of us is more deserving of God’s approval than anyone else. Anyone arrogantly thinking otherwise is in grave spiritual danger.

So what does it mean to be like God? “But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous,” (Matthew 5:44-45).

God loves the people we are strongly tempted to reject as despicable, and he longs for them to avail themselves of Christ’s free gift of cleansing and spiritual union with the holy Lord. And this is taken to an even higher level for the alters of people who have at least one part committed to Jesus.

    Philippians 1:6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

    Romans 5:9-10 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! For if, when we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

Even the great apostle Paul recognized within him things that were utterly opposed to God’s way:

    Romans 7:15-24 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. . . . As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.  . . . For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do – this I keep on doing. . . . For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

Instead of despairing, however, he immediately responded with:

    Romans 7:25-8:1 Thanks be to God – through Jesus Christ our Lord!  . . . Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus

Another factor worth remembering is that just as little children have diminished responsibility, so do many alters. For insight into this see How Accountable are People with Multiple Personalities?

For more help and Bible insights regarding loving one’s alters, see Love One’s Alters? God, the Bible, & Christian Factors In Healing Dissociative Identity Disorder.

For help with understanding how God’s love covers alters guilt of atrocious beliefs or actions, see Staggering Bible Truths About God’s Love: Deep Bible Revelation.

For help with loving and assisting alters who seem like your enemy, see Angry, Nasty, or Terrifying Alters.

For real life exchanges between a counselor and a demonized alter, demonstrating how gentle, loving exchanges transform alters, see Healing a Demon Possessed Pedophile Alter.

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